Leadership? Not from Sen. Obama.

in response to someone's retarded bash on obama...of course, it makes no sense and i shouldn't have even posted this, but i think i just wanted to remember it for some reason.

finally, i was only just able to really click on the discussions and expand them!

i just wanted to chime in on an issue someone brought up on a previous reply. it's true, if this were any other site people would be name calling, brow beating one another and just downright rude.

i think that's one of the things that sort of drew me out. there's no point in purposely insulting people just to get your point across and it's nice when everyone can agree to disagree.

one of the things i've noticed on a lot of other sites is the ugly divide between reps and dems. thing is that during any other time of the year it never even comes up.

"can't we all just get along?"

hmmm...i'm starting to feel like a sissy. i think i need to insult someone. okay, someone take a shot. who's gonna go first? DO IT, i can take it.

okay, me first:

mccain looks like your mother!!!! LOL yeah, i got nothing.

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CNN Calls Bush a High Functioning Moron

someone on cnn called bush a high...well, you get the picture. i wasn't sure who said it and never had the time to look it up. turns out it wasn't anyone that really mattered. maybe cnn would have a little backlash on it, but it really wasn't much. not that i care, i called bush a high functioning moron years ago. of course, that's in the privacy of my own home and not national television.

here was my reply on utterli:

DOH! that was a REALLY stupid thing to say. he called president bush a retard. well, he's not the first person who's said bush must be high on the spectrum, though not quite high enough, but when you pair the words "high functioning" together with "moron" well, seems to me your going to have a shit storm on your hands asap.

if this guy is anywhere near obama's camp he should get the boot and quick. it was a stupid thing to say and he should apologize SUPER FAST. it's insulting as hell.

not only was it insulting to our president it was insulting to it's people. trust me, i laughed my ass off. i have a sense of humor, but i also understand the backlash this guy is going to receive and it will be well deserved. he should know better and i don't give a shit if he didn't mean anything by it (anything other than to insult bush) because these people are supposed to be on a different plane than the rest of us.

see, it's one thing if an idiot like me calls someone a high functioning moron, retard, doofus, dork, mongoloid...have i left anything out? i have no education, i didn't go to a university, i never graduated from college. i'm supposed to be the high functioning moron here and even i know better than that, i understand the repercussions of badly used phrases.

i don't know if it's just me because i haven't exactly heard this anywhere else, but i firmly believe that these people need to be very careful when it comes to potentially sensitive issues. everything they do, every comment they make is scrutinized and dissected.

how can anyone be so stupid?

thank you Paul Begala for "going there" and thank you for the misstep. it's quite the blunder.

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Misdebate With Maharet!

Cybertronian Presidential Debate

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It's definitely unheard of. I NEVER discuss politics with anyone. Usually I keep my ideas in my own head. I hear something ludicrous come out of my husbands mouth and I relish in tearing him apart. 

I am starting to feel bad though, because it's almost as though I'm not allowing him his opinion. I do of course, but I still feel bad.

Since I've been on Utterli I've begun to open up in regards to politics in a way I didn't think I was capable of. I'm not exactly the most eloquent person and face to face I'm sure I'd stumble over my words, but hey practice makes perfect.

I didn't actually mean to get into it with PaulSwansen on Utterli, but I couldn't exactly help myself either. I can't wait to see what he has to say.

Here's the conversation so far...I warn you, It's long:

PAULSWANSEN:

Obama: I Am Such a Leader That I Will Defer to Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi As to Whether I Actually Need to Show Up To Do My Job As Senator. - http://minx.cc/ I'm wondering why the voters of Illinois aren't marching against such blatant disregard for the job to which they elected Sen. Obama. It certainly appears the Illinois voters aren't getting their money's worth.

MAHARET:

actually, i think the issue was that after obama suggested they make a joint effort to address current issues mccain tried to outdo him by suggesting that they should immediately drop what their doing (campaigning) and run to the white house to address the issues there.

yes, obama has people that he's constantly in contact with at the white house and of course so does mccain. as far as i understand they were asked NOT to go because they didn't want to turn the current issue into a political show.

as far as obama was concerned there was no reason why they couldn't address issues as they did today. i do wish that mccain had taken a little more time, perhaps actually answered some questions, but i'm sure everyone was happy with his script...speech.

i don't know, i mean i saw the speech obama gave. short and sweet, direct and to the point. he spent more time answering questions and addressing current issues. i may not always understand all the ins and outs, but i would like to see much more of that. you know, staying away from the finger pointing and sticking to the real subjects. 

i'm wondering if they'll have that debate on friday or if mccain will get his way and put it off....or was he putting it off until friday? i can't remember.

PAULSWANSEN:

Maybe and yet, "joint statements" are nothing more than posturing by both sides and really aren't worth the paper their printed on.

He's a US Senator, elected by the people of Illinois and in this case failing to do the job for which they elected him. It certainly doesn't show me any leadership as a Senator, and certainly no leadership to be President

MAHARET:

oh man...you know, if mccain had been the first to suggest that and actually do something about it i don't think anyone would be complaining all that much.

i'm almost positive you wouldn't be saying he was posturing either. 

how is he (obama) failing to do the job the people elected him to do by the way? i'm curious to know what he's not doing. maybe i haven't been keeping up to date on all your posts and you actually posted something relevant on another utter. 

personally, i do prefer to have information on both candidates. i think that's really important, but it seems to me that your focusing an awful lot on your anti-democrat theme. not that it matters i mean, because you're entitled 100% to think and say whatever you want. 

thing is that all i've seen is a lot of posturing from you and nothing of real substance. i'm sorry, but i'm having a hard time trying to keep this short and actually get my point across so if i seem like i'm being rude...it's not my intention.

i guess my point now is...get to the nitty gritty. your throwing out a lot of blame and accusations and then making me go read something. if everyone else is as lazy as i am eventually people will stop clicking on the links your posting. of course, it could just be me. lol

PAULSWANSEN: LEADERSHIP? NOT FROM SEN. OBAMA.

Sen. Obama is an elected US Senator from the State of Illinois. For him, not to return to the Senate, and instead, say, well, If I'm needed, call me, is, I assert the height of aloofness and elitism. How that comes across, is, "I can't be bothered with such trivial matters when I've got a debate to prep for." The people of Illinois elected him to serve and it appears that, they're not getting their money's worth. 

I'm not posturing, rather presenting, factual articles that anyone can find via the net. Let me state that I'm certainly not a Sen. Obama supporter and am less than enthusiastic about Sen. McCain. Given the choices presented, I'll take Sen. McCain over Sen. Obama. 

Given the current situation both here in the States and abroad, it occurs to me that having someone with proven leadership experience is a much better Presidential choice than that of a junior senator, who appears to have questionable judgement in his friends, associates and advisors, and little proven experience in much of anything.

I'd much rather be discussing the facts, economy, energy etc than all the Lipstick on a pig and the other supposed News stories, that side track everyone supporters and the News Media, alike.

MAHARET:

and that's what i don't get because that's all that i keep reading. maybe i haven't been reading enough of your posts to get the full picture, but all i hear is the same thing over and over again. 

thing is, your not the only one repeating himself and my head literally feels swollen. i don't think i can take anymore... the aloofness, the elitism, the pompous attitude, the inexperience, the....oh lord! i'm going out of my head here. is this really all we can focus on?

mccain/obama's behavior is important, but it's not the end all be all. there are reason why the decision was made to stay away. obama presented an idea to mccain and mccain tried to grandstand by presenting his grandiose idea of getting down there to VOTE! "STAND UP AMERICA, STAND UP!!!!" they were both told to stay the hell out of it because running down there was CLEARLY nothing but grandstanding on mccain's behalf and they didn't want that to turn into a media circus or some political ploy to gain voter support.

when you corner someone you get desperate and what i heard was everyone around me (rep's and dem's) repeating. obama went "BOO!" and mccain ran to the white house.

it's nothing but a stack of cards that BOTH these people are throwing at each other. and they're both trying to stay on top of the pile. 

the thing is that the blatant use of presidential politics and posturing mccain has introduced to the financial crisis is nothing less than comical. the really creepy part is the way in which our president jumps straight up into the camera and in so many words let's the whole world know that it's the right thing to do. it's absurd.

Sen. Obama's hubris and self-absorption

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what do you mean? lol your title referred to the hubris and self absorption of a senator. i pointed out the hubris and self absorption of another.

i hope you understand i wasn't trying to purposely upset you, but you posted a link to another site about what.... a coin? i only read it briefly and i'm not sure what the point was exactly.

if the point was to distract from real issues then the point was well made. i swear here, i'm NOT trying to upset you, but i wasn't even going to respond to this message after i rudely hung up on my husband for even bringing it up to me.

the endless going back and forth between candidates and the people constantly keeping the flow going with this type of silliness is really frustrating and quite frankly i'm just tired. i'm stressed out beyond belief watching one company after another crumble on wall street.

i'm freaking out because some idiot thinks he can take 700 billion dollars and actually had the balls to request no oversight.

am i going to take either an obama coin into account in matters like this? not really. you know why? i may not be very eloquent, especially in political matters, but i'm at least intuitive enough to see many points of view all in the blink of an eye without ANYONE having to point them out to me.

in my humble opinion sir, you are only looking at one side of the coin here. i seriously doubt that someone went up to obama and said, "hey mr senator sir, i have a great idea. why don't we run out just before election day and have a crap load of coins minted (in another country of course) with your face on it!"

even if obama said, "wonderful, save me a coin!" can you actually blame him? i can't. if i were him i'd want the entire set. lol

point is dear...there's no point to any of this because ultimately that's not what matters. you want to say that obama agreeing to the minting of a coin is significant, my answer to that is mccain owns 13 cars. who needs 13 cars? in my opinion that significant in terms of personal spending issues and how one handles their own life. if he were a senator and owned maybe 3 cars, well that tells me now there's someone who can afford a few cars and how wonderful because his wife doesn't need to borrow his like my husband might.

good for him. 13 cars on the other hand seems a bit excessive even for someone that i will be required to support in order to be seen as a patriot of this country should we YET AGAIN end up in the middle of a war. no...i'm sorry, the coin just isn't a huge issue for me because, man... EVEN I would be cool with it.

can you just imagine it? i mean, can you just imagine if he were our FIRST black president??? you want to tell me he's a bad guy because someone in another country is making coins? paul...i'm so sorry i've gone on so long about this (i'm emoting. lol) and i really do hope you're not upset with me. (i tend to do that a lot) but i really honestly and firmly believe, we have bigger fish to fry.

though a little lighthearted humor is more than welcome and, i guess that's what i thought was my point when i made my reply.

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GA Rep. Lynn Westmoreland: Obama's Uppity

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GA REP. LYNN WESTMORELAND: OBAMA'S 'UPPITY'

The GOP's white sheet is showing (again) as the Congressman from Georgia sets his inner bigot free. There's a reason the RNC has hit a record low in black…

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maha said:

dude, i wouldn't jump on the bandwagon either. the democrats said this, the republicans said that...it gets everyone absolutely no where.

the problem is that if it weren't effective it wouldn't be used as a weapon.

for example:

Rep. Steve King (R-Iowa) said that Obama's middle name – Hussein – is relevant to the public discourse surrounding his candidacy, saying in March that if Obama were elected, "Then the radical Islamists, the al Qaeda, the radical Islamists and their supporters, will be dancing in the streets in greater numbers than they did on Sept. 11 because they will declare victory in this War on Terror."

when you read a statement like that, what goes through your mind? the word BULLSHIT goes off in my mind, but you'd be surprised just how many people believe it. it's sad. it's sad beyond words. the gamers i play with aren't idiots. we're all adults, we all have fairly good jobs, some MUCH better than others. i know wealthy gamers, poor gamers, educated and non, but none of that matters because when it comes down to it scared shitless is scared shitless.

when the people we look to for guidance can so very easily say such ignorant things it's no wonder over half the people i've talked to believe the same thing. it's unreal....absolutely unreal.

statements like that say only one thing to me. our education system does not work. it clearly doesn't help people learn a damn thing. these are the types of people we allow to run our country.

this is SCARY. it matters not to me that it came from a republican or a democrat...there are people just like that everywhere. they drive cars!!!

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RNC Conv: tenor rhetoric & intent

well who needs to watch the news with you guys around!! i'm glad i didn't watch the rnc. i would have gone nuts. i'm a sucker for good speeches i tell you! when i saw an "unscripted" q&a a few weeks back (you know, the one where mccain was in that supposed "cone of silence") i nearly swallowed my tongue at how wonderful everything sounded that just BLURTED out of mccain's mouth.

i've gotten into several battles with gamers on xbox live in regards to all of the issues discussed here. most of the time i'm completely reluctant to even get into a political discussion with anyone let alone over xbox live. if you think people express themselves freely here then you've never been a gamer. people go insane! i've actually had people tell me, "oh what do you know you're just a woman." that statement was of course taken back in the very same breath because it's a guy we used to play with all the time. in other words, a nice friend.

in the heat of the moment people can say really stupid things, but some of the most idiotic have come from another friend who's come to call me an, "obama fanatic." he also said that anyone who could follow obama is obviously an idiot. that's what i call a staunch republican. funny think is, he's black.

the tenor so far? to continue scaring the living crap out of people to get the vote to swing as much in their favor as possible. if a man like that can be convinced that the reason he should vote for obama is because he's a terrorist (or wants to be their friend), he's unqualified, and dem's are determined to kill his babies then, and here's the really shit your pants scary part, they could convince anyone.

here's the real kicker. hold on to your boots. i don't think he's a fool, i don't think he's uneducated and i don't believe he's ignorant. some people have the ability to convince others that they are telling the truth beyond a shadow of a doubt (usually these are fairly religious people...they call it faith) and when they're in a position of power the faith that the people put in the government and their officials could be abused in such subtle ways so as to befuddle an entire segment of society effectively splitting the entire country right down the middle.

everyone wants to be a good person and if the majority of the people you believe in are shoving the things they WANT you to believe do down your throat how in the world could you not believe them? i mean, they could provide slide shows and everything! :P

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